Ryzen 7000 Testing

[Galve2000]

I already have it without the RL and without the GPU, on Monday they come to get it, and then I buy a Raptor lake...

But the bios is exactly the same, with this update nothing has changed, only a new DOCP profile has appeared, which is DOCP-II

If the Audio worked for me, I wouldn't have a problem using it, but if I can't use the audio, it's no use, and I don't want to be pessimistic, but I don't think the audio is easy to solve.

I leave here the latest EFI, with it I can install Big Sur without any problem, and everything works except Audio, and even if you use an external audio card it doesn't work well... HDMI/DP audio works better, but it has cuts.

In monterey you can install and update the system without problem, but I will not be able to use any NVMe in any of the M.2, and the other PCIe ports even if you put any card will not work, neither the i225v network

In Ventura it's the same as in monterey, you can install the system, and it works fine, but you can't use M.2 or any other PCIe other than the GPU.

The 7950x is a very good processor, but the motherboards are very expensive... with what the 7950x cost me plus the motherboard I have enough to buy a 13900k and a z790 and I suppose that I will have much less problems installing MacOS.

so you are throwing in the towel?

 

[ExtremeXT]

@PoMpIs
If you still have it, you could try running it in KVM.

 

[PoMpIs]

B650 should help with that—and from what I see the second chipset in your X670 board does not expose much of what it could provide.
But it will still require a solution to PCI and sound issues, plus a way to enable AppleVTD using AMD-V instead of Intel VT-d.
Thanks for your contribution to hacking Zen 4!


Er… A 13900K on Z690 is likely to run with little or no problem, but Z790 could bring a class of problems on its own. Hold on a little on that, unless you want another run at being a pioneer on a new platform.

No no, I'm the one who thanks you for your help... it's a pleasure to be here doing tests... and without ExtremeXT, Shaneee, CaseySJ, Middleman and all the others I couldn't do anything... so many thanks to all of you for to make this possible, and to the whole OpenCore team.. I had a great time and I have learned a lot

AppleVTD doesn't matter (except for Aquantia NIC)... Other motherboards work fine without it...

That's correct, I have looked at my 12400F and I have Intel-VT disabled and everything works perfect... so there is something else in the ryzen 7000 that MacOS does not like

so you are throwing in the towel?

The problem is that the bios has many bugs, even in windows having the iGPU next to the RX6800XT is not a good idea... options disappear from the Radeon control panel... there are already complaints about this in the Asus ROG forums... .and it seems that Asus is in no hurry to fix it...

And what kills me is the audio problem, without that in MacOS the Ryzen 7950x is useless to me

But it tends to always have multiple computers, I'll probably come back when new B650 boards come out, they may be less of a problem.

@PoMpIs
If you still have it, you could try running it in KVM.

I don't have it operational, but in UNRAID it sure works... but I don't like it very much... I just did it to learn on other computers

But in the i5 virtualizing MacOS ventura in UNRAID the ALC4080 audio when passing it to the VM is unusable as it is USB 2.0, it is heard as in the 7950x in native

 

[Shaneee]

I've been looking at the Asus TUF Gaming X670E-Plus. It uses S1220A audio which doesn't use USB I don't think. It also uses Realtek 2.5GB LAN which already works on AM4 boards.

 

[PoMpIs]

In any case, for me the hackintosh has little time left, I like MacOS not its computers, so as soon as I can't install the latest version of MacOS on my computers, be it Intel or AMD, then I'll leave it... for It's not fun for me to have MacOS on a Mac.. I started hackintosh in 2006.. so I was at the beginning of hackintosh and I want to be when it's the end

 

[ExtremeXT]

No no, I'm the one who thanks you for your help... it's a pleasure to be here doing tests... and without ExtremeXT, Shaneee, CaseySJ, Middleman and all the others I couldn't do anything... so many thanks to all of you for to make this possible, and to the whole OpenCore team.. I had a great time and I have learned a lot


That's correct, I have looked at my 12400F and I have Intel-VT disabled and everything works perfect... so there is something else in the ryzen 7000 that MacOS does not like



The problem is that the bios has many bugs, even in windows having the iGPU next to the RX6800XT is not a good idea... options disappear from the Radeon control panel... there are already complaints about this in the Asus ROG forums... .and it seems that Asus is in no hurry to fix it...

And what kills me is the audio problem, without that in MacOS the Ryzen 7950x is useless to me

But it tends to always have multiple computers, I'll probably come back when new B650 boards come out, they may be less of a problem.



I don't have it operational, but in UNRAID it sure works... but I don't like it very much... I just did it to learn on other computers

But in the i5 virtualizing MacOS ventura in UNRAID the ALC4080 audio when passing it to the VM is unusable as it is USB 2.0, it is heard as in the 7950x in native

What USB DAC do you have? I think a more expensive one with its own timer could work.

 

[PoMpIs]

I've been looking at the Asus TUF Gaming X670E-Plus. It uses S1220A audio which doesn't use USB I don't think. It also uses Realtek 2.5GB LAN which already works on AM4 boards.

That ALC1220A is on my asus B550E Gaming, and it works great in Ventura beta 9... the problem will be in the network, because even if it's realtek, it's connected to the PCI

 

[CaseySJ]

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That's correct, I have looked at my 12400F and I have Intel-VT disabled and everything works perfect... so there is something else in the ryzen 7000 that MacOS does not like
...

On my Asus ROG Strix Z690-i Gaming (mini-ITX) with Intel i5-12600K, the on-board Intel i225-V port works only when AppleVTD is enabled (Ventura Public Beta 8). Without it, the system crashes if an Ethernet cable is plugged into that port.

Do you experience the same behavior on your 12400F system?

 

[svan71]

So is this a hardware issue with x670 or is it a bios issue?

 

[ExtremeXT]

So is this a hardware issue with x670 or is it a bios issue?

Might be a bug that got its way into every firmware which the devs don't bother to fix as Windows isn't affected...

 

[PoMpIs]

What USB DAC do you have? I think a more expensive one with its own timer could work.

They are some Sound blaster PLAY3 that I bought more than a year ago, they are basic and cheap, but I have tried one of them in the Ryzen and something better than the integrated one works, but it is not usable, instead in all the other hackintosh they work 100% , I use them in UNRAID and I pass them to two gaming windows VMs, and my son and I use it at the same time..

But probably a quality usb DAC will work, although I still have many doubts that it will.

On my Asus ROG Strix Z690-i Gaming (mini-ITX) with Intel i5-12600K, the on-board Intel i225-V port works only when AppleVTD is enabled (Ventura Public Beta 8). Without it, the system crashes if an Ethernet cable is plugged into that port.

Do you experience the same behavior on your 12400F system?

If it behaved like this, it restarted when loading ventura... and you're right, just enabling VT-D already works, but I never turn off the i5, and sometimes after two days on it gave me a panic because of the i225v... so I have opted to use the AppleIntelI210 in OC and e1000=0 and since then it has never failed again, even after a week without shutting down or restarting

It's that my 12400F is in a B660 that allows overclocking by BCLK, and I have the BCLK at 127Mhz and there the micro reaches 5.1Ghz... yielding in mulitcore practically like a ryzen 5800x and in single core much more... it's "cheap" hackitnosh that performs very well..

 

[svan71]

Might be a bug that got its way into every firmware which the devs don't bother to fix as Windows isn't affected...

Wow, if that's the case, that REALLY sucks.

 

[etorix]

AppleVTD doesn't matter (except for Aquantia NIC)... Other motherboards work fine without it...

Except for Aquantia NICs, and Intel i210 and i225. That's a lot of motherboards.
Realtek NICs are fine for now. But I fear that the next step for Apple is to forbid loading networking kexts and force everything through Driver Kit (and AppleVTD).

 

[CaseySJ]

Except for Aquantia NICs, and Intel i210 and i225. That's a lot of motherboards.
Realtek NICs are fine for now. But I fear that the next step for Apple is to forbid loading networking kexts and force everything through Driver Kit (and AppleVTD).

AppleVTD is also necessary for Thunderbolt peripherals such as:

• Apple's own Thunderbolt to Gigabit Ethernet adapter (Big Sur and newer)
• Antelope Audio's Thunderbolt audio interfaces (Mojave and newer)

 

[PoMpIs]

@ExtremeXT

I have booted the Ryzen again... I attach a lot of screenshots of the bios v0705

https://imgur.com/a/gwrrkWH

but there was an error in the EFI... I've discovered it now... CPuTscSync wasn't working because it was before Lilu, and when using OpenCore Debug I saw it in the boot that said it didn't load because it was before Lilu. ..

Well, putting it after lilu, monterey and ventura gives panic because of:

CpuTscSync and IOPCIFamily

I have disabled CpusTscSync and now the audio via HDMI/DP works normally in ventura

 

[PoMpIs]

This is surreal.. with my Undervolt that I had for windows.. the integrated ALC4080 audio works much better than with the stock CPU... I would almost say that it can be used to watch a movie because it is perfectly understandable, it only suffers from some small cuts infrequent

Probably because with that undervolt in MacOS the saving states are not working, it always stays at 5.1Ghz

it is seen that what breaks the sound in MacOS is when the processor turns off cores

It is a pity that the PCIe and the i225v network do not work

 

[rhys]

This is surreal.. with my Undervolt that I had for windows.. the integrated ALC4080 audio works much better than with the stock CPU... I would almost say that it can be used to watch a movie because it is perfectly understandable, it only suffers from some small cuts infrequent

Probably because with that undervolt in MacOS the saving states are not working, it always stays at 5.1Ghz

it is seen that what breaks the sound in MacOS is when the processor turns off cores

It is a pity that the PCIe and the i225v network do not work

Does usb DAC sound work good?
I presume this likely means Big Sur should run good now no?

 

[PoMpIs]

Does usb DAC sound work good?
I presume this likely means Big Sur should run good now no?

No, that seems independent of the operating system... with my undervolt that I use in windows, and the CPU at 5.1Ghz, it greatly improves the internal USB audio and also the external Sound blaster... but it is not 100% audio, it suffers from small cuts... the one that if I improve a lot due to the HDMI/DP audio, I could perfectly watch a movie that the DP audio works quite well for me... but it is not 100% like in the other hackintosh...

It's just that I'm not using CpuTscSync, because it gives kernel panic, I guess it will have to be fixed for Ryzen 7000

 

[rhys]

No, that seems independent of the operating system... with my undervolt that I use in windows, and the CPU at 5.1Ghz, it greatly improves the internal USB audio and also the external Sound blaster... but it is not 100% audio, it suffers from small cuts... the one that if I improve a lot due to the HDMI/DP audio, I could perfectly watch a movie that the DP audio works quite well for me... but it is not 100% like in the other hackintosh...

It's just that I'm not using CpuTscSync, because it gives kernel panic, I guess it will have to be fixed for Ryzen 7000

Well at least there is a glimmer of hope here..

 

[PoMpIs]

Well at least there is a glimmer of hope here..

Yes, but the biggest problem will be the IOPCIFamily...