Ryzen 7000 Testing

[PoMpIs]

Do the xattr stuff, sorry wrong command up above!!!

Given that you copy the whole Xonotic folder into Application folder:

/usr/bin/xattr -r -d com.apple.quarantine /Applications/Xonotic/Xonotic.app

Well, nothing has happened, it's still the same




PS:
I'm going to sleep, tomorrow if there's something else to try I'll do it..

Thank you very much everyone, I'm having a great time

 

[tomnic]

Try this:

sudo xattr -rd com.apple.quarantine "/Applications/Xonotic/Xonotic.app"

or follow this thread: https://gitlab.com/xonotic/xonotic/-/issues/182

 

[Shaneee]

I'd say it's all looking promising. I'd love to jump on the testing train with possibly the ASUS AMD Ryzen TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS. Uses Realtek LAN so in theory should work. But at £955.46 for CPU, motherboard and RAM I just can't afford to upgrade.

 

[craighazan]

I'd say it's all looking promising. I'd love to jump on the testing train with possibly the ASUS AMD Ryzen TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS. Uses Realtek LAN so in theory should work. But at £955.46 for CPU, motherboard and RAM I just can't afford to upgrade.

AMD are holding an event tomorrow for the introduction of the B650 boards. I like the Gigabyte B650I Aorus Ultra.

Affordable Gigabyte B650 Motherboards Begin To Emerge For Mainstream AMD Zen 4 PCs — Hot Hardware

AMD's Zen 4-based Ryzen 7000 processors have attractive performance, but their value proposition is questionable. That's due to the cost of entry: you need speedy DDR5 memory for the best performance, and the available X670 motherboards aren't cheap. Inexpensive B650-based boards are on the way...

apple.news

 

[Middleman]

Does this mean USB audio (e.g. Realtek ALC4050 and ALC4080) will be okay?


When we use iMacPro1,1 or MacPro7,1 with an AMD GPU, we get DRM without any problem.

By the way, were you able to fully install macOS with the EFI folder I posted above? If so, which version (Big Sur, Monterey, Ventura)?

Yes it should be. ALC4080 normally requires use of AppleALCU (U for USB). Have you tried doing that @PoMpIs?

However I think there's an extra issue here - it sounds like it may be the audio from both the IGPU and/or dGPU are interfering somehow with the system. Not sure if we need to submit to Acidanthera the newer AMD IGPU audio codec device-ids. I know they had identified the 15xx series before for Raven/Picasso but maybe not the 14xx which these are (for Raphael).

 

[ExtremeXT]

@PoMpIs Try audio while something like Geekbench is running, AFAIK audio works fine unless the CPU is not in idle on APUs. As @Middleman said, try getting AppleALCU.

 

[PoMpIs]

Yes it should be. ALC4080 normally requires use of AppleALCU (U for USB). Have you tried doing that @PoMpIs?

However I think there's an extra issue here - it sounds like it may be the audio from both the IGPU and/or dGPU are interfering somehow with the system. Not sure if we need to submit to Acidanthera the newer AMD IGPU audio codec device-ids. I know they had identified the 15xx series before for Raven/Picasso but maybe not the 14xx which these are (for Raphael).

@PoMpIs Try audio while something like Geekbench is running, AFAIK audio works fine unless the CPU is not in idle on APUs. As @Middleman said, try getting AppleALCU.

Guys , I have the same audio chip and GPU in my Alder lake and I don't need anything, not even AppleALCU to make it work for crystal clear sound...

But I have tried what you have told me, I have tried AppleALCU, and also to have cinebench in loop while I watch youtube... Still the same, there is no difference... unusable audio

 

[PoMpIs]

Try this:

sudo xattr -rd com.apple.quarantine "/Applications/Xonotic/Xonotic.app"

or follow this thread: https://gitlab.com/xonotic/xonotic/-/issues/182

I can't get it to work

 

[PoMpIs]

Does this mean USB audio (e.g. Realtek ALC4050 and ALC4080) will be okay?


When we use iMacPro1,1 or MacPro7,1 with an AMD GPU, we get DRM without any problem.

By the way, were you able to fully install macOS with the EFI folder I posted above? If so, which version (Big Sur, Monterey, Ventura)?

Yesterday I think I did not explain myself well with WEG..

In Ventura, the Ryzen need WEG+agdpmod=pikera to have DRM, my 5900x needs it and my ryzen 1600AF need it, it doesn't matter if it's iMacPro1,1 or MacPro7,1... on the other hand, the intel ones don't need it, my alder lake does not need WEG and has DRM..

Now the Ryzen 7000, as I expected, do not need WEG or agdpmod=pikera, and they still have DRM, because now they have the same instructions as the intel ones... and the less Kext they use, the more I like it

 

[ExtremeXT]

Guys , I have the same audio chip and GPU in my Alder lake and I don't need anything, not even AppleALCU to make it work for crystal clear sound...

But I have tried what you have told me, I have tried AppleALCU, and also to have cinebench in loop while I watch youtube... Still the same, there is no difference... unusable audio

Can you try disabling AMDRyzenCPUPowerManagement and SMCAMDProcessor?

 

[PoMpIs]

Can you try disabling AMDRyzenCPUPowerManagement and SMCAMDProcessor?

Tested.. all the same, the audio works but it is choppy and distorted

I see little future for audio in Ryzen 7000 ...because the same audio chip on the B660 and z690 board works OOTB

 

[ExtremeXT]

Tested.. all the same, the audio works but it is choppy and distorted

I see little future for audio in Ryzen 7000 ...because the same audio chip on the B660 and z690 board works OOTBView attachment 7587

AFAIK it's related to the CPU timer, and that might be the case here too because of the TSC problem...

Does sleep mode work?

 

[PoMpIs]

AFAIK it's related to the CPU timer, and that might be the case here too because of the TSC problem...

Does sleep mode work?

I think I haven't tried the sleep mode in Big Sur...

 

[tomnic]

I can't get it to work

No problem, just try the Minecraft demo in 4k, take note of the fps, just press F3 ingame, I do about 400 fps

 

[Aluveitie]

APUs always had distorted sound due to timer issues. Might also be related to the iCPU.

 

[ExtremeXT]

APUs always had distorted sound due to timer issues. Might also be related to the iCPU.

Maybe it'll get fixed when ASUS allows disabling the iGPU...

 

[Middleman]

You'll also notice in the above screen that a device using IONDRVFramebuffer remains active. I can tell you this is actually used by the AMD IGPU. How do I know this? Because this is exactly the same framebuffer setting I have for my Atari VCS which has a Ryzen 1606G Picasso APU. Despite not having any acceleration I am able to use the GPU at 4K output on Big Sur. As Raphael has support for OpenCL and OpenGL it would be interesting to see if we can get Metal support for it also.

 

[Shaneee]

Is the audio still distorted when using HDMI/DP Audio? If I recall from when I had my G series using a USB dongle worked flawlessly so I'm surprised that the onboard "USB" audio isn't working correctly.

 

[PoMpIs]

sleep works, but waking it up restarts ..

@Shaneee the audio through HDMI/DP sometimes sounds good, sometimes bad, if I move the video later it tends to be distorted...

I also expected alc4080 audio to work perfect and OOTB, as it works on the asus B660

 

[Shaneee]

I've seen it suggested here but have you tried Speedkeeper yet? https://forum.amd-osx.com/resources/speedkeeper.3/